The Colors of Life

You are here

Ummm... Thats not Slip Catch?

82 posts / 0 new
Last post
roans rule
Offline
Last seen: 8 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/19/11
Re: Ummm... Thats not Slip Catch?

Newbie here. Found this forum looking for info on CAB.

I had written a pile of stuff and then oops hit the back button by mistake and well you guessed it! gone.

I am not writing it all again tonight. I have extra info on these horses and photos. I am hopefully gonna see another daughter of Slip Catch tomorrow when she makes her racing debut.

The photo below is of Lavender Fields at her third trial. It was decided this day she wasn't gonna cut it on the track.

IMAGE(http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/RIPbudgies/Horse%20Racing/DSC03800.jpg)

Maigray
Maigray's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 4 months ago
Joined: 02/15/09
Re: Ummm... Thats not Slip Catch?

Wow! Awesome! So glad you found your way here.

Threnody
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 3 months ago
Joined: 07/29/10
Re: Ummm... Thats not Slip Catch?

Really amazing! I agree with Maigray, very glad you found this place. ^_^

roans rule
Offline
Last seen: 8 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/19/11
Re: Ummm... Thats not Slip Catch?

Ok for those intertested in CAB and his decendants.

Firstly Lavendar Fields and Slip Catch have been sold and leave WA on Tuesday (22-2-2001) to reside at Winning Colours Farm in Rockley, NSW.

At the races today I had a very good look at Mending, a bay filly, daughter of Slip Catch. Having a chestnut sire I was expecting her to be a roan but alas she was definately a bay. I took a few photos of her and also had a really close look at her but found nothing unusal.

I ran in the breeder/owner of Slip Catch and met his lovely wife too this time and had a wonderful chat. She has a few photos and will hopefully be sending them to me. I am also going to head out to the farm and sit down with her and go through all the records.

Whilst at the races I keep an eye out for unusal things. Well out trots this 5 year old chestnut mare (Doctor Dash) by Bletchicano out of Dr Stone. Bletchicano's dam by the way is Golden Belt, the dam of Slip Catch. Bletchicano pedigree goes back through to Birdcatcher. This mare has, only a few mind you, 'birdcatcher spots'.

One thing Leslie did say today was that Slip Catch and Lilac Hill were so much alike it is hard to tell them apart.

Odd Colours by the way lives on a station up north of WA. Not sure where yet. Another roan was sold without permission and he has no idea to it's where-abouts.

Not sure if I read it here or on a another forum but the photos of the skinny horses own by the Vet who was subsequently prosecuted for animal abuse are not any of the roans produced in WA. Most likely they were CAB's offspring but he may have been bred to any breed. CAB was purchased as a bag of bones and spent his final days in a loving home. Leslie tells me that although he left a little to be desired conformation wise he made up for it all in that he had a wonderful nature.

So when I have some more stuff to add I will put it here.

roanie
Offline
Last seen: 8 years 8 months ago
Joined: 12/09/10
CAB rescue horse

Here is the CAB filly I spoke of. Pics aren't the best, but she has quite distinct white striping through her ribs and loins. I purchased her after she had been confiscated by the RSPCA. I broke her in last christmas and she has proven to be a pretty awesome little horse. p.s. she has filled out quite a bit since the RSPCA pics. I'll post some further pics once I can sort them

Threnody
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 3 months ago
Joined: 07/29/10
roans rule: Guess Slip Catch

roans rule: Guess Slip Catch had one of the rare moments when her black extension with the linked KIT patterns didn't inherit together in Mending. Very exciting news. Keep us updated when you get the pictures! ^_^

roanie: So good to see a horse from that ordeal doing well.

She is without a doubt a roan with rabicano combo that the roaned CAB progeny inherit together. The rabicano made the stripes around the flanks and her frosty tail base. It looks really neat when combined with classic roan IMO.

She looks like a completely different horse! Good to know that she is still alive and well after seeing the pictures of her condition from before. Thankfully she's not the "unknown" horse anymore. ^_^ Please keep us posted as well!

Daylene Alford
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 1 day ago
Joined: 02/12/09
Quote:She is without a doubt

She is without a doubt a roan with rabicano combo that the roaned CAB progeny inherit together.

I just wanted to add that since this is a new mutation that started with CAB we don't know for sure that it is roan and rabicano together. It could very well be something that is similar to both (another kit mutation) but separate from them both as well. Not saying that is the case just that it's a possibility.

Threnody
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 3 months ago
Joined: 07/29/10
Very true. Phenotypically

Very true. Phenotypically speaking rabicano roan. Genetically speaking unknown. Thanks Admin!

JNFerrigno
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 4 months ago
Joined: 06/24/10
Is it my new computer or

Is it my new computer or something? I don't understand how anyone can mistake that mare for the same pattern as CAB. You see that in roan horses all the time, or at least horses that physically appear roan, because it's assumed there are different types of roaning.

colorfan
colorfan's picture
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 3 months ago
Joined: 03/14/09
In the picture of the filly

In the picture of the filly it appears she has a white front fetlock on the off side and possible a white fetlock on the rear near side, as well as a large even blaze.
The middle horse has a star and no white on fetlocks.

The poor rescue ( I mean really pasture ornament is a term not meant literally don't have to bother feeding) J) poor thing, anyway, seems to have two white rear fetlocks and no white on the front.
The picture of the horse with the people seems to be yet another horse because the shape of the blaze is quite different.

I know there can be some fading but shape change?

Definitely there is something fishy going on if someone is trying to say these are all the same mare.

When I ride I feel His pleasure.

Daylene Alford
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 1 day ago
Joined: 02/12/09
JNFerrigno wrote:Is it my new

Is it my new computer or something? I don't understand how anyone can mistake that mare for the same pattern as CAB. You see that in roan horses all the time, or at least horses that physically appear roan, because it's assumed there are different types of roaning.

The roan pattern in TB stared with CAB. It's in the sense that he was the foundation of the roan TB mutation that they are the same pattern. Not that they look the same.

JNFerrigno
Offline
Last seen: 3 years 4 months ago
Joined: 06/24/10
admin wrote:The roan pattern

The roan pattern in TB stared with CAB. It's in the sense that he was the foundation of the roan TB mutation that they are the same pattern. Not that they look the same.

I understand that. But I thought the conversation here was the claim that there was a CA daughter with 'white brindeling' just like him. Which if that was the case, thats what I meant by not seeing how one could be mistaken as the other.

Threnody
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 3 months ago
Joined: 07/29/10
I had that impression as

I had that impression as well.

CAB had a very skewed expression of his KIT mutation pattern while his offspring have a more normal evenly distributed expression. They are visually distinct from each other though caused by the same allele mutation.

Katie
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 1 month ago
Joined: 08/13/10
http://www.winningcoloursfarm

http://www.winningcoloursfarm.com.au/Rac... catch

This appears to be where Slip Catch and her two daughters are currently. No sign of the mare with the blaze, but there is only pics of one daughter.

One has to wonder, have there been any male roans in this line yet?

Threnody
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 3 months ago
Joined: 07/29/10
Pink Floyd a chestnut roan

Pink Floyd a chestnut roan descendant is a male. Other males exist as well but unfortunately the links that showed them from before the forum moved seem to have copied wrong.

The mare with the blaze is Roanie's mare posted above and is with her. ^_^

Katie
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 1 month ago
Joined: 08/13/10
Yup I realised as soon as I

Yup I realised as soon as I posted that her mare is the one with the blaze lol.

Glad to know males exist. Do we have any gender related colours in horses?

Threnody
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 3 months ago
Joined: 07/29/10
No sex-linked colors have

No sex-linked colors have been identified in horses. The only sex-linked traits I personally know of in horses are hemophilia and the X-factor gene which causes enlarged hearts and is sought after in the racing community.

george
Offline
Last seen: 7 years 8 months ago
Joined: 11/03/10
AN OLD FLOYD PIC.

Here's an old photo of Floyd for those who were wanting to see the male inheritance of Catch A Bird's mutation.

Stanford
Offline
Last seen: 7 years 5 months ago
Joined: 07/11/12
I have a horse who exhibits the "Catch a Bird" stripes...

Hi!

Upon researching horse colour genetic for the probability of breeding colour from my TB Mare I came across the TB stallion Catch a Bird who has the same strange white striping that my Trakehner (with a spot of TB lines) exhibits.
He has displayed the stripes since a foal and they cover both sides of his body (including the insides of his legs) & he also has a distinct wide dorsal stripe. It has been a point of frustration as I have often entered the dressage arena and judges question if the horse is sweaty/dirty & is obviously completely unable to be shown.... alas... now what seems to be a genetic mutation! I guess now it is a point of genetic novelty.

If there had been any further progress on why that would be great to know!

Threnody
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 3 months ago
Joined: 07/29/10
Send us images. There are

Send us images. There are many causes of stripes or a brindled appearance in horses and it likely may not be the same thing that caused Catch A Bird's stripes. Start a new thread in the What Color is my Horse section with images of your horse and link it back to here.

Davegg23
Offline
Last seen: 7 years 4 months ago
Joined: 08/01/12
To analyze current status of

To analyze current status of the Swiss Army’s marketing development to retain and expand its international standard brand equity panerai replicas.

Pages

pandemonium