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As I promise..I got to see some of the APPY/AQHA horses

LOL better late then never...I havent got to see "THE" colt in question yet or the mare that produced it, but I got to meet the man that owned them and still has 3 of the full siblings ...I got pics to follow...but he said we can get over to the other guys farm that has his mare and colt he traded soon. but for now theses are the full siblings a 3 yr old colt( just gelded yesterday) and a 2 yr old filly and a older mare same cross I think either 4-5 years old she has the most markings that make you go hummmm...The are Shining Spark( grankids and Mr Gun smoke) Going to add pics so recheck as I get them loaded 3 yr old colt [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Paxo28/reining001.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Paxo28/reining007.jpg[/img]

Morgan Tue, 07/21/2009 - 14:33

[quote="admin"]Now all we need is to find tobiano in Quarter Horses and we'll be all set... :rofl :rofl :bounce :bounce[/quote]
There was one way back when , I forgot her name...Delta something. Dam was a grey minimal tobi. Obviously she didnt stay in the breed due to the white rules. :?

NZ Appaloosas Tue, 07/21/2009 - 18:58

[quote="accphotography"]What's the dam's pedigree?[/quote]

I'm not sure...Vicki has Reminic In Spots, and I'm not sure what her connection with the Shining Spark foal is...my other source hasn't provided me with the dam's name either. The foal has what most people would say was a small hip blanket or a lacy blanket (I'd go for small hip blanket myself). Some would say "snowcap", others MIGHT say false snowcap (which could be possible--he's got a star, which could indicate sabino and thus a sabino boost to the blanket).

But to be a true snowcap, the foal would have to have two Lp carrying parents, which means that one of them would have shown some sort of pattern, having Lp and PATN. For this foal to be out of two QH parents, one has had to provide the PATN, the other Lp, and the foal inheriting the two genes (or gene complexes) to produce the coat pattern.

Diane

NZ Appaloosas Tue, 07/21/2009 - 20:39

Well, yeah, that's what I meant :laugh1 With so much unknown as to what makes/allows Lp to express (that ellusive PATN), I look at any horse that has white on it as a potential PATN donor. And Shining Spark does have a classic blaze/snip, and what (on allbreed, anyway) could be a white sock on the left hind. Of course, he's in grass halfway up to his knees in that photo, so who knows...

Diane

critterkeeper Thu, 07/23/2009 - 23:09

I agree, there is definately something going on with that breeding combination. :bounce I bet those 2 could produce even louder foals if bred to Appys.

I wonder if the sister would produce a "spotted foal" if bred to PATN carrier :-? ... I'd sure like to "experiment" with several different potential sires ;;) .

Heather Fri, 07/24/2009 - 06:24

[quote="NZ Appaloosas"]Resurrecting this...Vicki's done a website for Reminic In Spots. http://www.reining-appaloosa.com/Remini…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Click on his dam's photo for a larger version AND go check out the full sister. I'm seeing a big ole ??? on her genetic make-up!

Diane[/quote]

Ahh you beat me to it :bounce ..She sent it on here too, great info there!

peruvianpasogal Sat, 08/01/2009 - 23:06

[quote="admin"]Now all we need is to find tobiano in Quarter Horses and we'll be all set... :rofl :rofl :bounce :bounce[/quote]
There is a mare that is AQHA roan minimal tobiano, and if I remember correctly all her sorrel foals are tobiano (registered APHA) all her black based ones are roan (registered AQHA) (she was bred to the same AQHA stud for all foals) and I do believe there are a couple more known tobi AQHA's out there. I have pics somewhere I will try to find them.

NZ Appaloosas Sun, 08/02/2009 - 03:01

Up until recently recently, yes. Anything that went over the AQHA's white restrictions were offloaded into the APHA or sold off as grade, most likely. With the relaxation of the AQHA's excessive white rules, these horses are now allowed registration papers, so I would imagine, like the Lp "pop-outs", we'll see the other patterns popping out as well.

Diane

Heather Sun, 08/02/2009 - 10:27

60s 70s even the 80s I know of people that bought and sold papers for unregistered foals...there was no DNA-ing going on back then.

I got some really really cool looking reining pics , that was FUN!!! They are exciting pics to take.I will try to get some up in a little bit ..

Morgan Sun, 08/02/2009 - 10:29

Speaking of white rules, APHA is thinking of lowering the qualifying zone. I think this is awsome news for the sabinos and splashed whites. They are moving the line on the legs down to the center of the knees and hocks and the line on the face, instead of being corner of lip to base of ear, would be corner of lip to outer corner of eye to base of ear. It will be voted on at the next convention (Oct.)

CMhorses Sun, 08/02/2009 - 14:28

[quote="accphotography"]Wow... it's going to be really strange having AQHAs have all patterns (and colors?) known to man.[/quote]
Wow thats really cool. You sure there is no color left out? Do they have all modifers? like pangare and whatnot

NZ Appaloosas Sun, 08/02/2009 - 20:13

Okay, now which baby-daddy is this--never mind, just re-read the whole thread and have my "i"s crossed and "t"s dotted? So he has two white socks...hmmmm

And does anyone remember what I was supposed to ask my historian person? (man, talk about having blonde moments...think this is crossed with a senior moment, so twice as forgetful! :laugh1 )

Diane

accphotography Sun, 08/02/2009 - 22:14

He's rabicano. I find most of the best reining and cutting horses are rabicano... maybe it's linked to the catty gene. :rofl (I also find most of them red... hmmmm... maybe rabicano is linked to extension too. :laugh1 )

Who is this horse again? Reminic Ringo?