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Coat Color Pictures

I'm working on some of the pictures so I'm gonna post some for feedback. Let me know how things need adjusted! :D [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/thirdpeppermint/Horse%20Colors/c…] Here's how it looks bayified: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/thirdpeppermint/Horse%20Colors/b…] Palominofied [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/thirdpeppermint/Horse%20Colors/p…] And dunified: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/thirdpeppermint/Horse%20Colors/r…] Thoughts?

lipigirl Sat, 06/19/2010 - 14:26

Very good except the Dun which needs more zebra stripes and more primitive markings to make Dun clearer IMO.

Dogrose Sat, 06/19/2010 - 18:19

Cool! I could have endless hours of fun doing horse colours abd markings, how sad am I LOL.
I think the dun should have a darker face maybe? Is it a red dun?

Third Peppermint Sat, 06/19/2010 - 19:56

What I need is a good idea of how to redo the champagne and pearl dilutions that I did. I went back and look at them and felt rather embarrassed that I even drew them... :oops:

Any suggestions on what I should focus on for them?

accphotography Sat, 06/19/2010 - 23:52

Hey TP, I just remembered you once contacted me about an online game before! For some reason I didn't realize it was you until I saw your IRL name haha.

Dogrose Sun, 06/20/2010 - 04:00

The red dun is much better, do they have any contrast at the top of the tail, sort of darker in the centre and lighter on the outer part? I've not studied red duns up close. Bay duns seem to have a bit of contrast going on there.
With champagne what strikes me straight away is the skin colour on the face. I've not looked at pearls really so can't help there.

lipigirl Sun, 06/20/2010 - 06:09

yes like the Dun now and with the Champers why not try to get the eye colour and also the mottling around muzzle

Third Peppermint Sun, 06/20/2010 - 14:21

[quote="admin"]I like the champagne layer that you did.[/quote]

Really? I'm not too thrilled with them...

What about the double dilute?

My biggest problem is that I can't really get the multiple dilutions to dilute quite right. Like, when I make a chestnut based horse with the dun, cream, and champagne dilutions it just looks strange.

lipigirl Sun, 06/20/2010 - 14:49

the classic should be more greyish and have that almost black dun look...am i explaining it right ??? also the mottling on face should be more a dark pink.....I know it's not always like that but for the pictures could you try it please?

Daylene Alford Sun, 06/20/2010 - 16:54

I really don't expect them to look perfect. For example, on the champagne layer the classic is pretty close but gold is really to dark (golds often looks like palominos). I think that champagne probably dilutes chestnut more than black so you don't get it exactly right with just one layer. The same thing goes for the ivory champagnes. They're diluted more than just the sum of the individual dilutions. However, making multiple layers trying to get everything perfect is something I want to avoid (it makes the code to output them very yucky looking).

If you want to lighten the champagne layer just a tad that would be fine but don't kill yourself.

Daylene Alford Sun, 06/20/2010 - 17:21

Now your just teasing me :P I actually studied your images for a very long time trying to get an idea how you did them.

Third Peppermint Sun, 06/20/2010 - 19:37

ACC I'm attempting to look at the examples but I'm having a tough time making one layer that does both the classic champagne and the gold champagne. It gets a little frustrating because the color of the light during different photos is... different. If anyone has any really good examples I'd love to see them. It'd make my job easier. :D

I'm working on changing the mottling because I agree that it looks strange.

Ms. Admin, do you know if you could code it to spit out a color name and have the base color be attached to that as opposed to being entirely layers? Even if I could split the horses into two groups: black based and red based. Just a thought...

Sorry I got distracted from this... my fiancé bought me Red Dead Redemption and a Lego Lamborghini...

Daylene Alford Sun, 06/20/2010 - 20:39

What I do is create the strings of genotypes like Ee AA CHch Rnrn then search them to add the color description and the color layers.

I can sort of do it according the base colors. I already do that for chestnut, bay, seal, and black now. How many do you have in mind? There would still have to be some layers. I just can't account for all the combinations in the calculator manually. Doing layers for black and red would be much easier than adding more base colors. I already do that for cream and silver anyway.

That gold looks really nice.

I think you've made amazing progress.

Daylene

accphotography Sun, 06/20/2010 - 21:55

I think that last gold is VERY nice!! If it were me, I'd lighten the sheath area a bit (one are I always look if the photo allows when I'm verifying champagne) and for some reason.... I feel the hooves need to be a bit lighter....? Is that totally off?

Rising Moon Ranch has alot of examples of champagne with other dilutions. I've got one medium gold but the lighting isn't great.

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TheRedHayflinger Sun, 06/20/2010 - 22:20

my gold champagne TWH had pale pinkish grey hooves on his two legs without markings.

TheRedHayflinger Sun, 06/20/2010 - 22:27

nope..not crazy. In fact, if Riot's legs were muddy or dirty and you did a quick look...it was fairly hard to see which hooves were the "white" ones. The ones with leg white were deff. "pinker" but they also had some pinkish grey striping on them as well.

TheRedHayflinger Sun, 06/20/2010 - 22:37

i'm not near my desktop or photo CDs...so i went digging around on a place I know I have tons of pics of Riot posted...from when he was a bitty baby up until a few months before I had to put him down...so far, this is the only one that really shows his feet well enough. The left hind and right front had white legs...the other two had no leg white at all and even with them being a bit dusty, you can still see the pinkish grey hue of them.
Excuse the funky coloration of him...he had been body clipped at some point a few weeks prior..lol