Brown and Bay Again

I am looking for examples of horses that have tested At that look regular bay but just have some slight lightening in the soft points. Some people seem to think that all horses that have any indication of lightening at all in the soft points are not bay and are in fact brown, irrelevant of in all other ways looking regular bay. Horses like --> [img=500x370]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/058/2/a/bay_quarter_horse_mare_s…] [img]http://www.horseforum.com/members/34110/album/nyx-4386/nyx-confo-6-3029…] [img=500x370]http://www.castlestud.com/SL381262.JPG[/img] and [img]http://quarterhorse.ws/qbfarm/ms_impresnator_chip400.jpg[/img] The only horses I have found actually tested as brown looked truly obvious brown (dark body with obvious lightening of soft points) So I would love to see examples of horses that have tested as At that are more normal bay in look with just the minor softening of the points.