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Anyone want to play a genetics guessing game?
I have a little filly that I have just recently sent hair samples in to have tested and I thought it might be interesting if some of you wanted to make some guesses on her genetics. I wish I had pictures of her parents to share, but I don't, although I have personally seen both parents. Her sire is Bear Farms Gentleman And A Scholar, untested (to the best of my knowledge) but prooven by his get to be a Smokey Black. He has one short white sock and no other markings. He was sired by a minimally marked Black Pinto and out of a Palomino mare. Her dam is Bear Farms Bright Side, who is solid White except for one brownish colored ear. She was sired by the Black and White, blue-eyed stallion in my avatar and out of a mare listed as Sorrel Pinto. Here is the filly, Bear Farms Scholars Bright Side. Any one care to guess? Keep in mind these are not the best conformation shots, but hopefully will show her markings. IMAGE(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/FreelandNash/Bright%20Side/IMG_6182.jpg) IMAGE(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/FreelandNash/Bright%20Side/IMG_6165.jpg) IMAGE(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/FreelandNash/Bright%20Side/IMG_6173.jpg) IMAGE(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/FreelandNash/Bright%20Side/IMG_6180.jpg) IMAGE(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/FreelandNash/Bright%20Side/IMG_6191.jpg) Tests run for Tobiano, LWO, Red Factor, and Cream.
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ohh fun one! black or smokey black..I'll say black.

*stares hard at socks and blaze* I'm gonna say minimal tobiano/frame/splash just for giggles. I should have at least two of them right. :lol:

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Hmm... I'll say smokey black tobiano! But really she could just as easily be black!

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Smoky Black with frame, splash and sabino. No tobi.

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Tobi and Frame.

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My guess is she'll test as smoky black + frame

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Well, as we all know now that Cream does not show on Black, she cannot be Smoky Black :rofl :rofl

My guess is Smoky Black, Sabino/Splash/ minimal Tobi and, of course,

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I think smoky black with frame and maybe splash too?

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That would not explain the two small socks.....

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That would not explain the two small socks.....

You think sabino? You musta posted right when I was. That's almost a given eh? Well I teeter because frame *seems* to push them down in the front, but I could see it. Heck, I could see it as splash instead of frame as well.....The wiggly blaze - I WISH there were a splash test!!! I just like that we can see the results eventually and we're not guessing into the wind!

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I'm almost certain that that is splash and frame on the face. The star just doesn't cut it as splash alone and yet the lower part IS splashy. I've been wrong about frame plenty times though, its my white pattern nemesis, I just can't get a good handle on it :lol: I'm more on the fence about tobiano but the socks are bugging me. They look like splash and minimal tobi together. Could be sabino instead though, definitely not splash alone. That and the roan patch on her left shoulder. 8-)

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I'm almost certain that that is splash and frame on the face. The star just doesn't cut it as splash alone and yet the lower part IS splashy. I've been wrong about frame plenty times though, its my white pattern nemesis, I just can't get a good handle on it :lol: I'm more on the fence about tobiano but the socks are bugging me. They look like splash and minimal tobi together. Could be sabino instead though, definitely not splash alone. That and the roan patch on her left shoulder. 8-)

No Roan patch on her left shoulder or anywhere else. That is just the sun gleaming on her coat. :-D

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... and, of course,

TEST for OLWS

Jane, surely you didn't doubt that I would. :hammer Good reminder though.

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black no cream , frame and splash

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OK, I have the results.

First of all, what I was HOPING for: I was hoping for homozygous Black (and thought it MIGHT be a possibility since the dam has had a Black Pinto foal from a Sorrel Pinto stallion. I was hoping for Tobiano, and thought it was a possibility since I have some other Bear Farms horses that have tested positive for Tobiano and are similarly marked. I was hoping for NO Cream as I am not a big fan of dilutes. I was also hoping for LWO negative as I would like to possibly breed her to my Frame stallion in the future.

What I THOUGHT I would get: Since I am not noted for being lucky, I figured she would be heterozygous Red/Black. I thought she would be heterozygous for Tobiano, since Bear Farms has produced so many minimally marked horses that look so similar to her, but test positive for Tobiano. I really doubted she would be Homozygous for Tobiano because I really couldn't see it in the sire with only one very short sock. Again, with my lack of luck, I expected her to be a Smokey Black, like her sire. I didn't really expect her to be positive for LWO as none of my Bear Farms horses have tested positive for it, BUT I STILL TEST. :hammer

TEST RESULTS:
Red Factor - Ee
Tobiano - nn
Cream - nn
LWO - nn

So, I guess I got half of what I hoped for and half of what I expected. :ymdaydream:

I think Splash is a given with the blue eye and crooked blaze (I do wish they would get a test for it developed though and proove me right). :HB I did not test for Sabino, as I feel probably 90% of horses have some form of Sabino and most of them will not be positive for SB1. I also felt Agouti was a waste of money as she is TOO Black to carry it.

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Hey cool! So was anyone right?! LOL!!

I like it when get results after the guessing!

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Hey cool! So was anyone right?! LOL!!

I like it when get results after the guessing!

Actually, no one on here guessed correctly. You all are going to have to sharpen up a bit. :rofl

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Hah... I guessed (didn't post) frame positive, so I lost too.

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