90.7 dressage test
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I'll just add, now that I've watched the video, one comment. I don't like how this horse moves in general. He's too showy and HIGH in the front and not nearly enough behind IMO. I DO realize that is what is desirable in dressage today so it's not a criticism per se, just a personal preference. I guess I've just gotten to where I prefer hunter movement to anything else. Quite remarkable dressage horse though, for what they want these days.
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Yes I saw it, it is at Windsor this year in the Queen's back garden !!
This horse is amazing and IMHO also outshines most Lipis I have seen performing ! He has a lovley natural and elastic movement is never tense and you see no tail swishing, he is also very rarely behind the vertical which in this day of Rollkur is a joy to see - wow what a fabulous horse !!! :love
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No I agree it was not classical - that I do believe should be left to the Iberian breeds but it was beautiful and it was just SO nice not to see the horse stressed by it for a change....but then as I said earlier it performed better than any Lipi I have seen mainly because Lipis can't extend very well - its their one big flaw otherwise they would win all the dressage me thinks and that horse did have an amazing extension. There has only ever been one Lipi at the Olympics in dressage because of it....and dont forget it's only 9 !
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[quote="lipigirl"]No I agree it was not classical - that I do believe should be left to the Iberian breeds but it was beautiful and it was just SO nice not to see the horse stressed by it for a change....but then as I said earlier it performed better than any Lipi I have seen mainly because Lipis can't extend very well - its their one big flaw otherwise they would win all the dressage me thinks and that horse did have an amazing extension. There has only ever been one Lipi at the Olympics in dressage because of it....and dont forget it's only 9 ![/quote]
I hardly think his horses aren't stressed considering the way Edward trains: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEo…]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAOab26…]
Such a pity. Lovely horses.
And sure they extend but they don't track up well. My paint horse tracks up better than these guys do...
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[quote="Heidi"]Has anyone seen Edward Gal and Moreland Totilas' dressage test?
The horse was so happy, relaxed and fluid. It was beautiful to watch. Can anyone familiar with dressage tell me what I was seeing, and what the two announcers were discussing? I thought it was just beautiful.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZhtiCqB…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;[/quote]
totally OT, but we have a half-brother of Totilas in New Zealand, available for breeding! :bounce
Diane
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[quote="TheSwingHorse"]I hardly think his horses aren't stressed considering the way Edward trains: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEo…]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAOab26…]
Such a pity. Lovely horses.
And sure they extend but they don't track up well. My paint horse tracks up better than these guys do...[/quote]
Ahh, Rolkur training...somewhere I have links to a lengthy discussion on this type of training. It's apparently all the 'rage' in the Anky crowd, but there's been all sorts of outcry amongst the dressage fans.
Diane
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^ Because it is cheating for a quicker result that goes against the basis for dressage training. And they have exaggerated movement that isn't correct. http://www.sustainabledressage.com/roll…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It is the equivalent of the Big Lick Tennessee Walkers in the dressage world.
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I enjoyed watching the test, it was certainly impressive and the horse DID look relaxed, shame he uses the hyperflexion technique, I don't agree with it personally. However one point did strike me in the comments, the author liked the test but argued that if the FEI is going to reward performances like this with record breaking results them they need to change the written ideal. I agree, partly because al lot of what they require in the rules is physically impossible, fore and hind limbs parallel in trot? um they bend completely differently, that wont happen.
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I agree Lillith,
The dressage test was impressive, the Warmbloods move differently to the Iberian breeds anyways and I'd far rather see a Iberian doing Classical dressage any day to this however, it was entertaining to see and nice to see a relaxed horse although I am SO disappointed that they used Rollkur on this horse - SO sad :sad and I agree that if the judges are going to give high marks like this then people are going to have to train their horses differently and think more circus moves then Classical.
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With the parallel thing, it refers to the cannons...More often than not if the horse is "flicking" in front the back legs are not reaching forward enough. Todays' "competition is a far cry from the "classical". You just have to watch the horse and riders of the Spanish Riding School work and then compare them to the "modern" lot... A horse should always work from behind which will create a frame (for want of a better word) that lowers behind because the back rounds-not the neck-as the back legs step underneath...just have a look at any of Nunos' photos! He was the master of the magical contact. You should be able to ride a highly educated horse with little contact as the seat and legs are the comunitive connection. Yes I'm passionate about this as I was taught right from the beginning the classical principles and have stopped competing now as I refuse to "haul" my horses into "shape". We ride for enjoyment don't we?
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If I'm not mistaken this is also the new world record for a dressage score.