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2 gold champagnes and their shade difference

champagneqh December 06, 2009 February 22, 2011

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My new gold mare arrived on Saturday and although I do not have good photos of her yet as Gayle had her camera and so far has been stingy with the pics. I did get a few of her and Lloyd meeting but I was busy getting Lloyd in love shots. Both these horses are color tested and except for his pinto gene they tested the same. ee-aa-crcr-Chch or a chestnut horse with no cream, recessive agouti and one champagne gene. I am amazed at the color difference in the two. Poor Lloyd is in LOVE and Lena was not real impressed with him after the initial meeting. She was exposed to an Amber champagne stallion and I am near positive she is in foal. Her personality is amazingly sweet and I am just thrilled with everything about her. She is on the way short side where my horses are concerned as she is 14.1 and all mine are over 15 hands except Lloyd and he is getting there . So here is Olenas Birthday Bar or Lena for short 2006 dark gold champagne mare and poor Lloyd does not realize it but she is his Aunt:-) Too bad HoJo was not in the shot so we could have 3 shades of Champagne Lloyd loves Lena [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/rjmeade/LenaandLloyd1.jpg[/img] Lloyd and Lena [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/rjmeade/LenaandLloyd4.jpg[/img] Lena by her stall [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/rjmeade/LenaandLloyd3.jpg[/img]

accphotography Sun, 12/06/2009 - 22:37

I realize he is exceptionally dark (he actually looks chestnut), but she is EXCEPTIONALLY pale. That's the palest champagne I've seen yet except for those also carrying cream. I'm really surprised she's not. She almost looks like a pale palomino.

champagneqh Sun, 12/06/2009 - 22:48

Lloyd is the light one :-) There is no chance of cream at all his dam is my chestnut tovero APHA and his sire is Cougarand San Bar. Lena is out of Cougar's dam and by his 1/2 brother on his sires side sounds like a soap;-)

Equidae Mon, 12/07/2009 - 06:09

my gold champagne tended to be very light in the winter the first few winters...then not so much(but still always lighter than the summer coat which was medium gold). What does he look like in his summer coat? Still super light?

Love the color difference there :D

Heather Mon, 12/07/2009 - 06:23

With birthday bar in her name curious about ped..is she on all breed?

Edit to addm.I found her yep related to my herd..I had several from miss birthday by birthday bar :) who is the result of three bars bred his daughter bar annie..a lot of great crosses came down from that IMO

champagneqh Mon, 12/07/2009 - 11:17

[quote="Equidae"]my gold champagne tended to be very light in the winter the first few winters...then not so much(but still always lighter than the summer coat which was medium gold). What does he look like in his summer coat? Still super light?

Love the color difference there :D[/quote]

Yep he is just a light one:-) in fact I think he is darker now then summer here he is in August

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/…]

missmagus Mon, 12/14/2009 - 13:59

Wow - that very light champagne is amazing. What are the horses eyes? Amber, blue, green?

Does anyone know if there's a list that has QH's listed that carry the champagne gene? I'm really curious as I have a gelding by my stallion who finally has a nice coat now, he just came from the trainers, and he is so iridescent gold, has the freckly skin on his muzzle and around his eyes - and now that I know what to look for I'm going to look at his skin color under his coat. I don't think it's black as between his back legs, up on the gaskin, you can see the skin is a light color - definitely not black. My stallion is a perlino dun and so the gelding son does carry a creme - his dam is a liver chestnut QH mare.

Jenks Wed, 12/23/2009 - 07:27

[quote="missmagus"]Wow - that very light champagne is amazing. What are the horses eyes? Amber, blue, green?

Does anyone know if there's a list that has QH's listed that carry the champagne gene? I'm really curious as I have a gelding by my stallion who finally has a nice coat now, he just came from the trainers, and he is so iridescent gold, has the freckly skin on his muzzle and around his eyes - and now that I know what to look for I'm going to look at his skin color under his coat. I don't think it's black as between his back legs, up on the gaskin, you can see the skin is a light color - definitely not black. My stallion is a perlino dun and so the gelding son does carry a creme - his dam is a liver chestnut QH mare.[/quote]

You may already know this, so forgive me if you do.
That iridescent sheen in non-champagnes is thought to be caused by hollow hair follicles. Arabs used to be known for having some degree of it, but it's Akhal Tekes that are most known. It does not affect the skin like Champagne, but is supposedly only the hair structure. Studies indicate (in other animals) that it is used to regulate temperature.

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champagneqh Wed, 12/23/2009 - 13:26

[quote="missmagus"]Wow - that very light champagne is amazing. What are the horses eyes? Amber, blue, green? [/quote]

Ooops I had answered this question but my puter was dying and it never sent;-) Lloyd has amber eyes.