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WHAT the heck???
k, the same breeder that had this (possible) brindle champagne http://www.equine-color.info/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1598 now has another really interesting patterned champagne foal. IMAGE(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/awesometiming/brindle%20Champagne/30584_1449727642799_1221451117_1288.jpg) IMAGE(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/awesometiming/brindle%20Champagne/31340_1452711197386_1221451117_1292.jpg) IMAGE(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/awesometiming/brindle%20Champagne/31340_1452731157885_1221451117_1292.jpg)
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HOLY COW!!! Can't wait to hear some answers about this one.

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I'm thinking "gold spot".

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What is gold spot??

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Weird areas of diluted pigment that generally appear goldish.

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I can't find other examples right now, but I've seen a bunch of them. I don't know if it's somatic or what. Usually it's just a fist sized spot that nearly always looks gold no matter what the base color of the horse.

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Ah, I didn't know it had a name but yeah, I've seen it in photos. Did you name it? :lol:

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I don't know, maybe there was something in the water last year and they are both some sort of chimeric!

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Pretty much. :rofl It's better than saying "it's a random spot of diluted pigment that I see occasionally". :rofl I actually think I may have picked it up from someone else that used the term, but I don't remember. I've seen several people call it that now, but I may have started it for them, I'm not sure which way it went.

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we had a gelding at the BSA Camp I worked with that had Gold Spot. The vet up there called it that when we asked about it.

Interesting little foal :) and great other examples.

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Weirdest bit is that it is on both sides, as if she got caught up in some fabric stain remover!! :rofl
So, if Pinto patterns can be affected by the temperature in the womb, what about just plain old pigment being affected, too?
So it really has just been "bleached"
Never knew it was called "Gold Spot"!!!

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weird! I have never seen it before. Thanks for sharing the other examples

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some people have all the cool markings !!!! :D

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It looks to me like the gold is in a distinct pattern in the coat. It is in places that would be normally be white. It's easy to see the pattern on the face.

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wonder if it's "related" to sunspots that some appaloosas get.

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I suspect so Diane.

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I've got a buckskin with a 'less diluted' spot. Looks more like a birthmark! I think I've shared pictures of her before. Is that the same sort of thing??

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Maybe, but I kinda think not as I've only seen those on dilutes. Gold spots happen on every base.

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The paint gelding had it on both sides too (I took the pic :) finally got to contribute something "cool" lol). I thought it was really neat but the owner didn't think it was that big of a deal. If she hadn't been about to go into her class I woulda asked to grab some hairs off the two different colors lol.

I didn't realize there had been any more discussion on it. I thought and still think it was a way cool marking, and that baby is super cute!

Some more from both sides and a closer pic
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I had a bay TB mare that had a gold spot on her neck little bigger then your fist, her name was "what a case" and her daughter I had then had a gold sock. I thought it was wierd to be in both of them.

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Hum, if dam and foal both had gold spots that would lend me more to believing it is genetic in nature and not mere happenstance from a cold/hot womb...very interesting. :?:

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the dam is a classic champagne, no gold spots, and the sire is a amber dun champagne (no gold spots that I am aware of.) what a neat little foal she is though! and the brindle one I am thinking MUSt be a chimera? no brindle in the parents on that one.. Same sire, paint dam.

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There is a 1969 mare named Amigo Jen that had unusual markings like this. She was in the Paint horse legends book More than Color by Frank Holmes. You can see a picture of her by fallowing this link for her on allbreedpedigree.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/amigo+jen

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