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Palomino???

Ok, this little guy I thought was palomino, but then I got told he may not be! He has no grey (as far as I know) in his background. His dam is a palomino (although when questioning the colts colour the dam's was questioned aswell LOL!) I am unsure what her sire and dam are His sire is a bay. The sire is a sorrel overo (not frame) and dam is silver black. George: 1 day old [img]http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6764/george2.jpg[/img] 1 week old [img]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2156/33051462.jpg[/img] [img]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1650/g11g.jpg[/img] 2 months old, first clip [img]http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3822/clip5z.jpg[/img] 3 months old [img]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8291/george18.jpg[/img] [img]http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8369/george13.jpg[/img] 5 months old [img]http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9352/cr10r.jpg[/img] [img]http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9109/a26no.jpg[/img] [img]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/549/a27ma.jpg[/img] 10 months old [img]http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2381/jan4.jpg[/img] Dam [img]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6207/crealy15.jpg[/img] [img]http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/2063/crealy40.jpg[/img] Sire: [img]http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1793/horse11sq.jpg[/img] [img]http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2370/horse12.jpg[/img] Grandsire: [img]http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7996/luckyfourclassycolours.jpg[/img] Granddam: [img]http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3861/dragonslaircajunqueen.jpg[/img] So... what do you all think?? :pop:

supaspot60 Fri, 02/18/2011 - 17:26

definately looks pally to me , he is not grey- a grey horse must have a grey parent to be grey

Maigray Fri, 02/18/2011 - 17:26

I think you got it right too. I think sire might be sooty buckskin, but am not altogether sure about it. He does look to have pangare markings, and your colt might have inherited them, which is helping to wash out his color.

Welcome to the forum!

misunderstood Fri, 02/18/2011 - 17:35

Thanks guys! I was a bit scared about posting here as you're all far more knowledgable than me on colours LOL!

Monsterpony Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:07

I see palomino. I had a mini of this same color throw me because I thought maybe grey, but turned out to be definitely palomino.

Dilutes Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:07

Well I think he's like a little version of my boy (well colourwise hehe). Pale Palomino, or sometimes called an Isabella Palomino. Saxon carries one copy of the silver gene but being red based, doesn't express it.

Saxon at 4 days old
[img]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/…]

Still damp after a wash
[img]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/…]

[img]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/…]

Saxon's sire is a perlino and his dam, I was told a silver bay. Upon viewing her in person and looking at her pics I have of her, I think she is a silver black. Unfortunately she was sold on, so she was never tested.

critterkeeper Fri, 02/18/2011 - 19:18

Your colt is definitely an Isabella palomino...got one myself. It is not uncommon for an Isabella to be mistaken for other colors, but as there is no doubt that the dam is pali and a question that dad may, in fact, carry cream also, who knows. I can say without a doubt that he is NOT a cremello or perlino as his skin and eyes are dark (not pink/blue as with a DD cream).

I am also so very familar with that :-\ :-S ~X( feeling....my mare (her dam) is so dark a sooty chestnut that she is mistaken for bay by nearly everyone who sees her (even when standing next to a true dark bay) so I was hoping for a dark golden pali like I got from my sorrel mare the year before (it didn't happen). I am anxiously awaiting this years foals from these two mares and my cremello stallion...fingers crossed.... :YMPRAY:

CheyAut Sat, 02/19/2011 - 09:21

Palomino. Palo minis tend to be very light, especially as foals, winter fuzzies, and shaved.

rabbitsfizz Sun, 02/20/2011 - 11:06

The foal is Palomino (nice foal!) but I am still doubtful of the mare.
The sire of the foal looks Sooty Buckskin- what is the mares parentage?
I never did work out exactly what Classy Colours colour was- so that may be the problem here! ymwhisle

Maigray Sun, 02/20/2011 - 11:12

Yes, I was thinking maybe the sire passed on cream, and not the mare..

misunderstood Sun, 02/20/2011 - 11:54

[quote="rabbitsfizz"]The foal is Palomino (nice foal!) but I am still doubtful of the mare.
The sire of the foal looks Sooty Buckskin- what is the mares parentage?
I never did work out exactly what Classy Colours colour was- so that may be the problem here! ymwhisle[/quote]

I don't know the mares parentage colours. Sire: Komokos Sugar Bugarman Dam: Littlest Angels GGs Crystal bleu

She produced a palomino colt the year before when bred to la vista brilliant remark, a sorrel overo stallion. Which is why I assumed she carried cream... I REALLY should test her! :BH

supaspot60 Sun, 02/20/2011 - 12:14

[quote="misunderstood"][quote="rabbitsfizz"]The foal is Palomino (nice foal!) but I am still doubtful of the mare.
The sire of the foal looks Sooty Buckskin- what is the mares parentage?
I never did work out exactly what Classy Colours colour was- so that may be the problem here! ymwhisle[/quote]

I don't know the mares parentage colours. Sire: Komokos Sugar Bugarman Dam: Littlest Angels GGs Crystal bleu

She produced a palomino colt the year before when bred to la vista brilliant remark, a sorrel overo stallion. Which is why I assumed she carried cream... I REALLY should test her! :BH[/quote]

if thats the case then she must be a pally as remark is red and white and he could not produce a dilute foal

misunderstood Sun, 02/20/2011 - 12:25

[quote="supaspot60"][quote="misunderstood"][quote="rabbitsfizz"]The foal is Palomino (nice foal!) but I am still doubtful of the mare.
The sire of the foal looks Sooty Buckskin- what is the mares parentage?
I never did work out exactly what Classy Colours colour was- so that may be the problem here! ymwhisle[/quote]

I don't know the mares parentage colours. Sire: Komokos Sugar Bugarman Dam: Littlest Angels GGs Crystal bleu

She produced a palomino colt the year before when bred to la vista brilliant remark, a sorrel overo stallion. Which is why I assumed she carried cream... I REALLY should test her! :BH[/quote]

if thats the case then she must be a pally as remark is red and white and he could not produce a dilute foal[/quote]

I attached pics of Spice (previous foal) and the sire - same dam as above.

rabbitsfizz Sun, 02/20/2011 - 12:46

I queried that foal being Palomino at the time- I wondered then if he was Sorrel Sabino- as is Marky......

misunderstood Sun, 02/20/2011 - 13:07

[quote="rabbitsfizz"]I queried that foal being Palomino at the time- I wondered then if he was Sorrel Sabino- as is Marky......[/quote]

Do you mean Spice - the one in the last post?

Here is another picture of him:

lipigirl Sun, 02/20/2011 - 13:20

Do you have any unclipped pictures as clipping interfers with the natural colour of the coat?

misunderstood Sun, 02/20/2011 - 13:25

[quote="lipigirl"]Do you have any unclipped pictures as clipping interfers with the natural colour of the coat?[/quote]

Of the second colt?

How's this:

lipigirl Sun, 02/20/2011 - 14:49

Hmmm would have liked to have seen a full body shot but from that I am more inclined to say Pally.

misunderstood Sun, 02/20/2011 - 15:42

Try this, I don't have many unclipped as they're always clipped to show lol: